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On this episode of Reaganism, we are joined by former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper to talk about his new book, A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times. Roger and Secretary Esper discuss how the Pentagon addressed growing threats like terrorism, China, and a global pandemic.

0:00 Outlandish Ideas
3:24 Redacted, Not Classified
5:09 As Objective As Possible
8:25 You’re Fired!
10:31 Skating on Thin Ice
13:32 Knowledge of Insurrection
15:27 Wrong Place, Wrong Time
19:15 Called to the President’s Office
23:52 Calculus of Termination
26:15 Constitutional Conundrum
29:20 Keeping Trump Focused
32:06 A Bad Moment
35:22 25th Amendment
36:55 Putin’s Failure
39:19 Two Percent Commitment
41:18 Continuity vs. Change
43:18 Lightning Round

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