Lawns: The sun king and the pink flamingo | Don't Drink the Milk – Podcast

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"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are," said a wise old English poet. So what can a well-manicured lawn reveal about status, power and the American Dream? A surprising amount!

Rachel and Sam start their journey in some fancy French palace gardens and end up in suburban America. Come along for the garden party as they mow over the history of the lawn – and ask if its time is up.

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Interviewees featured in this episode:

Véronique Ciampini, Landscape engineer, Versailles

Ian Thompson, Retired landscape architect, formerly Newcastle University

Jenny Price, Writer and environmental historian

Shaun Moser, Conservation Garden Park Manager, Jordan Valley Water

Eric Vermel, Conservation Supervisor, Jordan Valley Water

Rob Bennett, Homeowner



This episode of Don't Drink the Milk was produced by Sam Baker, hosted by Rachel Stewart, edited by Charli Shield and fact checked by Katharina Abel.
Chapter index:

0:00 Intro

0:16 What's your favorite scent?

2:37 A yard fit for a king

6:09 The evolution of... grassy patches?

8:21 How to show your power over the world with grass

10:37 A new anti-monarchist style

12:43 Stumbling across a corner of England

14:57 Lawns make it to the United States

19:00 A battleground for taste

22:11 What is "natural"?

25:06 Ripping out lawns in Utah

30:56 Flowery mead makes a comeback!

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