The Best Argument Against Veganism | Joel Salatin | EP 539

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Regenerative farming pioneer Joel Salatin joins Dr. Jordan B. Peterson to challenge the myth that cows are bad for the planet. They explore how pasture-based farming restores ecosystems, the dangers of industrial agriculture, and why storytelling matters in the fight for the future of food.

Joel Salatin, dubbed the "Lunatic Farmer," is a Christian libertarian environmentalist and one of the most outspoken voices in regenerative agriculture. Co-owner of Polyface Farm in Virginia, he supplies thousands with pasture-raised meats and teaches sustainable farming worldwide. With 16 books, such as “The Omnivore’s Dilemma," countless columns, and a wildly engaging speaking style, Salatin blends mischief, grit, and deep cultural insight to challenge how we think about food, freedom, and stewardship of the land.

This episode was filmed on March, 10th, 2025.

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:45) Intro
(2:59) Salatin’s family started farming to fight socialism
(10:51) Farm size, modular animal shelters and controlled grazing
(22:30) Terraforming gullies to be herd-habitable
(25:48) Are cows contributing to climate change?
(32:31) The invention of egg-mobiles
(36:33) Cow psychology and behavioral adaptation
(40:24) Nature has a natural seed bank
(45:40) The economics of farming—why it’s worth it
(49:06) Interface matters: how to market your produce beyond the farmers market
(53:45) The number one reason farms fail
(56:19) How to start from scratch - “It took us three years before we could exhale”
(59:40) The secret to success in any profession
(1:02:35) This will be the most valuable asset to your business
(1:04:45) Reinforcement learning theory
(1:07:54) Relationship marketing: mastering this will propel your business
(1:19:52) Farming needs young people—an invitation


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