
Hawk discusses one of the most difficult questions facing American politics: what happens if a Democrat wins the presidency after Trump? Hawk examines the choices ahead — whether the next Democratic president should appoint someone like Jack Smith to immediately pursue investigations and prosecutions, or whether the focus should instead be on healthcare, the economy, and repairing international relationships.
He raises questions about accountability for ICE agents, the Department of Homeland Security, and Trump’s administration, while also considering the risks of authoritarianism, military presence in Washington DC, and how Democrats could even begin to campaign in 2028 under these conditions.
Hawk also reflects on history, from the aftermath of the Civil War to the handling of Merrick Garland’s nomination, asking if the United States should forgive and move forward or hold people accountable. With the possibility of Trump refusing to leave office and undermining democracy, the stakes for the future could not be higher.
This conversation focuses on justice, democracy, authoritarianism, and the uncertain path ahead for Democrats and the nation.
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Timestamps
00:01 Hawk recalls JVL and Tim Miller on democratic strategy
00:34 Debate over prosecuting Trump officials or moving on
01:17 Question of a Jack Smith style prosecutor in the next administration
02:06 Should ICE agents face accountability under a Democratic president
02:46 Alternative priorities like healthcare and the economy
03:33 Authoritarianism, military in the streets, and ICE activity
04:04 How Democrats could even campaign in 2028
04:26 Trump keeping the military in Washington through elections
05:08 Hawk questions whether Democrats can focus on progress or justice
05:40 Final reflection: beats the hell out of me
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