
Jon Bellion invited me to his home for a conversation that completely changed the way I see music, success, and creativity. We talked about everything - from writing some of the biggest songs of all time for artists like Justin Bieber, Maroon 5, Halsey, and Rihanna, to stepping away from the spotlight, becoming a father, and finding his way back to music on his own terms.
But this isn’t just a comeback story. It’s a story about values. About redefining success. About why being a present father is more meaningful than any award, and why sometimes, stepping back is the only way to move forward.
💡 This conversation is for YOU if:
🔥 You’re an artist, creative, or dreamer feeling stuck or burnt out
🔥 You’ve ever struggled with pressure, perfectionism, or self-worth
🔥 You want to understand how one of the greatest musical minds really works
🔥 You’re trying to find balance between ambition and a meaningful life
We get into The Human Condition, the making of Glory Sound Prep, his new album Father Figure, and what it’s like to build a cinematic world with music. We talk about faith. Family. Vulnerability. What it really means to create something that lasts. And why you need to strike out in order to be successful.
From six years of writing behind the scenes to returning with a message that being a good dad is cool - this is the most impactful conversation for creatives yet.
I truly believe this interview will change people’s lives because it changed mine. Thank you Jon, for your honesty, your heart, and for trusting me to help you tell your story. I’ll never forget this one. Thank you to everyone who helped me bring this episode to life!
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0:00 - The Return of Jon Bellion
4:20 - Songs You May Know by Jon Bellion
5:25 - How Many Songs Did Jon Write Before His First Hit
6:22 - What Kept Jon Bellion Making Music
8:23 - Jon Bellion’s Process While Writing and How It’s Changed
10:58 - When Did Jon Bellion Gain Confidence in His Music
15:14 - DistroKid - My Current Music Distribution Platform (Sponsor)
16:38 - From The Catering Hall to “Monsters” By Eminem Ft. Rhianna
19:30 - How Does Jon Measure Success
27:32 - NordVPN — My Favorite VPN (Sponsor)
29:07 - Jon Bellion’s Top 3 Goals in Life
32:51 - Why The Concept Behind “Father Figure” Scared Jon
35:58 - What is a Father Figure?
40:35 - The Human Condition and Glory Sound Prep
42:45 - Did People Believe in “The Human Condition” or “All Time Low”
47:09 - Jon starts to interview Daniel
52:29 - How Has Writing Changed For Jon and The Industry as a Whole
53:50 - FREE PDF — 15 Lessons from Music Legends
56:44 - What Inspired The Sound Behind “The Human Condition”
59:25 - Jon’s Opinion On Having Writers and The Perception of The Public
1:05:14 - Jon’s Experience Working With One of His Idols, Pharrell
1:08:04 - Jon’s Advice to Young Creatives and How to Tackle Fear
1:09:00 - Is it Scary to Release Songs as Vulnerable as “Stupid Deep”
1:15:00 - Were There Failures Before “Monsters”
1:18:30 - Behind The Wall Merch — Discount in Description
1:20:07 - Staying Away From Virality and Focusing on Finding Something “Timeless”
1:21:29 - Why Jon Quit Being an Artist and Started Only Creating for Others for 6 Years
1:26:13 - Why Did Jon Come Back as an Artist? Why now?
1:28:03 - Why It’s Been a Fun Comeback and How It’s Changed Jon’s Fanbase
1:34:35 - How Connecting With Fans is Working
1:38:39 - Jon wants to play new music
1:41:41 - "Get It Right"
1:46:03 - "Father Figure"
1:47:48 - What Does Jon Hope People Feel The First Time They Hear "Father Figure"
1:49:19 - What Does Jon Hope His Kids Feel About "Father Figure"
1:50:56 - Heart Felt Goodbyes, Thank You Jon Bellion for Going Behind The Wall with Us!