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Actor (You) and podcast host (Podcrushed) Penn Badgley hops on the train and drops a cosmic take that spirals into a full-blown philosophy session. Is “nothing” just a myth? Are we using the word to avoid meaning? Do teenagers secretly care when they say they don’t? Kareem and Penn go deep on existence, the Big Bang, and whether oppressive emptiness is actually just… something.

Nothing makes sense. Which means everything does.

Credits
Host: Kareem Rahma
Guest: Penn Badgley
Creators: Kareem Rahma & Andrew Kuo
Camera: Anthony DiMieri & Thomas Kasem Lim
Editor: Tyler Christie
Mixer: Dale Eisinger
Associate Producer: Ramy Shafi
Artwork: Andrew Lawandus
Theme Music: Tyler McCauley

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